Critical engagement because of response with ‘Mezan


Translated by Dr. Sohail Ansari

It is my humble submission that the points/topics highlighted in the blog are not at all the basic content of the chapter respected sir read and commented. To know details and references about worship you are advised to go over chapter  law of worship page 263-404 under the unit ‘Al-Kitab/ Shariyah; and for the details of edible , kindly read ‘dietary law page 629-638) it will truly be appreciable if you comment after going over it. Further writer have taught all these chapters and are available on website with detailed question and answer session. “One should read pages 263 to 404. 629- 638 before commenting’’.  

Response of salman to analysis of book ‘Mezan’ by Prof Inyat (via  Sms on 7th of Feb 2016  to dr sohail )

 

Response of Prof Inyat to response of Salman

 

Salman means that pages analyzed are the (further) explanation not the content itself. Response implies something quite opposite to what it should. Response should be: pages analyzed are the basic content of a book; therefore reading explanation (explanation of content) would clarify. Problem can occur if analysis is restricted only to basic content therefore, one is suggested to read explanation to grip the content in its entirety; but Salam says that analysis (of pages 45, 46, 63) was of explanation; if he is right then logically no problem should occur. 

 Regardless of the logical flaw in response, the suggestion to read pages 263 to 404. 629- 638 implies that answers of questions posed in the analysis of pages 45, 46, 63 are in the suggested pages. Reading suggested pages turned out to be not only exercise in futility in a sense that pursuit of answers ended in failure but also I got an impression that pages from 274 to 281 were the explanation.

 

I quote lines from my previous analysis:

Muslim narrates that Abu Zar was consistent in praying namaz in pre-conversion period. …..” P45
‘To know details and references about worship you are advised to go over chapter law of worship page 263-404 under the unit ‘Al-Kitab/ Shariyah’
I followed advice and that read suggested pages.
Below I quote page 276
 ‘Abu Zar he had been observing Namaz three years before meeting Prophet (peace be upon him) he was inquired for who he was worshiping for? He replied for God.’
Question I raised in my previous analysis:
(1)   The word namaz is susceptible of various interpretations; for example one school of thought defines it as the act of folding hands. Prophet determined the meaning of namaz through his act of praying and enjoined his followers: ‘pray in way I do’.   Had Abu Zar been performing the namaz in the same way (genuflecting, prostrating) or he had been simply folding hands or following some other postures? Simply stating that Abu Zar had been performing namaz does not prove that namaz of his was no different from the namaz of prophet.
(2)   Let’s suppose that namaz of Abu Zar was the same as the namaz of Prophet but Abu Zar was the only man (as text mentions only his name) but conclusion is generalized as example of one man is taken to prove that everyone was the performer of namaz. 
(3)   Text provides no information of the form (posture or pattern of namaz) and substance (recitation during namaz) of the namaz of Abu Zar.  Let’s suppose that the namaz of his was no different in form and substance to the namaz of prophet. Let’s suppose that conclusion is not generalized and every one had already been performing in the right form and substance; then why prophet asked his campaigns to learn to perform by act of observing the former praying?
Readers should decide that how far the deficit of knowledge on page 45 is compensated by page 276 through meeting questions raised in previous analysis. 
Reading page 276 added one more deficit:

(4)   Similarity of a word does not mean similarity of an image word creates. People those believe in incarnation or anthropomorphism keep the image of God that is different from image of God Muslim keep. Infidels of Mecca believed in God but the image they had of God was not endorsed by Islam.

People belonging to different religions associate different characteristics and attributes to God; therefore all people believes in God but everyone has its own God; and true God according to our belief is God introduced by prophet (P.B.U.H); therefore suggesting that Abu Zar believed in God before the advent of prophet does not prove that he believed in the God that was later introduced by prophet (P.B.U.H).

If Abu Zar believed in God that had attributes same as those of God introduced by prophet (P.B.U.H).), then how he knew those attributes?

 ‘‘History of Namaz (P 274 to 277)’’

‘The history of namaz is as old as that of religion. It existed is all religion and its pattern and timings were somewhat determined…..’ text states that ‘all prophets of God underscored the importance of Namaz…..’ text further quotes different prophets urging their children or their people to observe Namaz. Text quotes Prophet Zakariya ‘he was standing and praying namaz’. On page 276 book quotes a couplet ‘worship day and night…’  ‘The Namaz of Christen and Jews is mentioned time and again in Bible and Bible interprets Namaz in a way Quran interprets as praying, recitation, genuflecting and prostrating…..  ‘Sea belongs to Him…. Let’s genuflect and prostrate’

One rule should be remembered that there is no evolution in the teaching of prophet and of Satan. Teachings of different prophets in different periods and time in history have always been same so the grounds Satan used to tempt people. Book therefore proves something (prophets were praying and worshipping) that is already proven.

 

Question is: If teachings are same then why different prophets in different periods to repeat same thing? As first prophet in the beginning taught things and then teaching must have passed on from generation to generation as book suggest.

Answer is:  Things do not pass from generation to generation. People grow far removed from the teaching with the passage of time and thus need prophet to remind them.

 

One another thing should be remembered that though there is no evolution in teaching but there has always been variation on the theme (in message/substance) and in form in accordance to the needs and dictates of time.  Genuflecting and prostration can be different as well.

Question I raised in my previous analysis:

Reference no 31 regarding fast is from the book of history; suppose this book is as authentic as any authentic book of Hadith; details regarding the form and substance of fast are still needed.   Page 45

I followed advice that read suggested pages from 356 to 358.
 Pages from 356 to 358 are really interesting. All quotes are from Bible to prove that fast was in existence and practiced among the people of the book and then book concludes: ‘This history of fast proves that fast was as known to the addresses of the Quran as Namaz and Zakat.
The immediate and primary addresses of Quran were the infidels of Mecca; not the people of the book. It is interesting as quotes proves the practice of fast among ‘people of the book’ but author says that practice among the ‘people of book’ proves that fast was known and practiced by the infidels.

Page 358 states:  “the addresses of Quran not only knew the status of fast but also all the conditions and pre-requites associated with it; addresses of Quran therefore are not given any detail of its conditions and pre-requisites (of fast); and instructed instead to keep fast as they knew it’’.

Page 358 grows more and more interesting as it proceeds, one cannot help feeling that prophet (P.B.U.H) was born among people fully conversant with all articles of faith and really cannot help wondering what Prophet (P.B.U.H) was born for? 

Knowing something by name (as infidel) knew God by name does not mean knowing it with all its characteristics and conditions. Quran did not give details to highlight the importance of Hadith as Hadith had to explain things/injunctions.

The question is:     If addresses of the Quran knew every condition and prerequisite of fast, why Hadith had details of everything article of faith including fast?

 

‘Arab had the word for fast in pre-Islamic period proves that they were knowing fast….356


Question I raised in my previous analysis regarding Friday prayer can be applied to fast and begs for answer that how knowing something by name means knowing it by substance:
 ’…the addressees of the Quran were no strangers to the prayer of Friday…” P45
Infidels of Mecca were no strangers to the God as well. Abu jahil before the battle of Badr prayed to one and only God. Knowing does not mean believing or in other words, knowing does not mean believing as it is required to believe. Suppose knowing means believing as book urges readers to believe that performance of Friday prayer (again no information regarding the form and substance of Friday prayer is given) indicates that God was known and believed; so it leaves zero-scope for the advent of any prophet to revive Tuhid (oneness of God) as the concept had already been entrenched. 

Author mentions different article of faith and states that they were already in practice and prophet (P.B.U.H) continued them with certain amendments.

Verbal unity between one practice in two different periods in history does not necessarily mean that practice in both periods was same in form and substance. To prove that verbal unity means that practice in two different periods was same in form and substance, writer has to answer a few questions.

1)                  Did article of faith exist in the same form and substance as required? 

2)                  What kinds of the amendment Prophet made? Were these amendments dealt with fundamentals (substance or with forms).

It is important to explain as worship can exist in definition and practice that runs counter to the purpose it was enjoined to followers.  

Readers should decide that how far the deficit of knowledge on page 45 is compensated by page 356 to 358. 
‘History of Zakat P 345
‘Zakat was as enjoined as Namaz to followers of every prophet; therefore Muslims were not stranger to it when they were instructed by divine injunction to pay it. It was sunnat already in existence; therefore, prophet continued it with certain man amendments in the light of divine commands.’
Muslim were infidels in pre-conversion period; they were not follower of any chief religion of the world. Lines logically should be: when Muslims were instructed to pay zakat that was quite known to Jews and christen as people of book were fully conversant with zakat.  

 (for the details of edible, kindly read ‘dietary law page 629-638). I followed advice

 

‘Man guided by nature discriminates good from bad therefore he always knows (by instinct) that lion, leopard… snakes, scorpions are not fit for human consumption.   Page 629-630’

 

Questions I raised in my previous analysis on page 60:
 “…man always knows that lion, leopard…donkey are not made for consumption’’P60

1)      Knowing that something is bad is different from knowing that something is prohibited. Christian asserts ‘drink but do not get drunk’ and adds that when a person drinks he grows addicted so it is better not to drink at all. What percentage of Christian shuns drinking because it is bad but not bad enough to be prohibited?

2)      The line on page 60 indicates the people knew that donkeys were not fit for eating; even we accept this reasoning for the sake of argument; it will not prove that people were not eating donkeys as when people can drink despite not feeling good about it, so people could eat donkeys despite having bad feeling about it.

3)      We learn from history that people had cooked donkey but prophet asked them not eat it anymore. People stopped eating donkey because of the prohibition from prophet not because of inner abhorrence.

 

Readers should decide that how far the deficit of knowledge on page 60 is compensated by pages 629-630 through meeting questions raised in previous analysis of P 60 

Reading pages 629-630 added more deficits:
My point is that human intellect cannot determine the difference between permissible and non-permissible; and if author of book thinks otherwise so he must answer few questions:
1)      Hedonism as the philosophy of life is in existence in west, why ‘enlightened people’ of west cannot know the perniciousness of this philosophy?
2)      If human intellect can discriminate between right and wrong, why there have always been divine Do's and don'ts?
3)      Why 1374.6 million people of china are unguided by nature in eating snakes and scorpions?
4)      Why pig is popular dish in non Muslim community?

 

 

‘Further writer have taught all these chapters and are available on website with detailed question and answer session’.

 

 


Questions I raised in my previous analysis
Views of the author of a book are not mainstream; majority thinks otherwise. There are long-established rules of rebuttal; rational course would therefore be the analysis of the underlying strength of argument to rebut them: one can reject but should give reason for rejection. Author of a book should have given his readers the exposure of views he does not endorse with detailed analysis of reasons and references supporting views he seeks to refute. Readers of a book feel that opinion of the writer of a book (opinion we must respect) is not the one but the only opinion. This intellectual dishonesty book advertently or inadvertently commits.

Does any of the lecture gives its audience the exposure of views author of book does not endorse with detailed analysis of reasons and references supporting views he seeks to refute?

In the world of scholarship and research popularity is not necessarily credibility. Readers of newspapers are educated by different definition: one is to be literate enough to read; and reading is for reading sake. Articles pregnant with profound meanings cannot attract wide readership but articles probing things on surface in an interesting way.

Popular articles are not necessarily important articles.   Writer despite wide readership cannot acquire intellectual cachet as long as he is not published in research magazine as readers of research magazine are educated by different definition: equipped with supreme rational faculties; analytical and topic orientated committed to reading not for reading sake.

The gauge to size up the important and popular writer, therefore, is different.

Detailed questions and answers session lend spurious plausibility to idea that chapters taught are academically credible. Question is not important in itself; it is important because of its content. Audience in question and answer sessions are like the readers of newspaper. Questions were not intellectually challenging nor dealt with knowledge deficit as if they had, would I not have to raise question in my two analyses on blog as question would have been answered in question answer session.

I will truly appreciate if I get a link of a lecture that has renowned scholars putting questions as its audience

Research is important but perhaps more important is its direction that determines its worth. Every occurrence that is departure from normal is news but every news cannot be the event that has important cultural and social impact. News can be of any event that is eye-catching; For example a famous definition goes: dog bites man is not news but if man bites dog. Man biting dog is departure from normal but it has no social and cultural significance.  Scholar does not hunt for things that suit well for public consumption and that sets him apart from journalist and content of his book from content of newspaper (in terms of choice of subjects). Discussion on topics regarding the continuity of the article of faith has no cultural, social and political significance. Author should address issue such as ‘new world information order’; ‘blasphemy not an end in itself’ to enlighten its readers to put up defense against assaults aiming at vitiating the core of Muslim civilization.

 


 

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